{"id":1848,"date":"2025-09-21T01:34:29","date_gmt":"2025-09-21T01:34:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/?p=1848"},"modified":"2025-09-21T01:34:29","modified_gmt":"2025-09-21T01:34:29","slug":"the-motive-behind-charlie-kirks-killing-what-we-know-and-dont-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/?p=1848","title":{"rendered":"The motive behind Charlie Kirk&#8217;s killing: What we know and don&#8217;t know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The roommate of the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk had one question.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Why?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I had enough of his hatred,&#8221; Tyler Robinson wrote back. &#8220;Some hate can&#8217;t be negotiated out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On Tuesday, authorities released messages between Robinson and the roommate from the hours after the shooting. Officials have said the unnamed roommate was a &#8220;biological male&#8221; who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.<\/p>\n<p>Prosecutors also gave further details that could point to a possible motive \u2013 although there is still much that is not known.<\/p>\n<p>According to an indictment, Robinson&#8217;s mother told police that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and left-wing, &#8220;more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>And in family conversations before the shooting, Robinson allegedly accused Kirk of spreading hate.<\/p>\n<p>Prosecutors say Robinson left a message for his roommate: &#8220;I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I&#8217;m going to take it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>During Tuesday&#8217;s news conference, Utah County prosecutor Jeff Gray said instead of deleting the messages like Robinson asked, the roommate provided the missives to police.<\/p>\n<h2>Messages on shell casings<\/h2>\n<p>The messages and interviews with family members form crucial parts of the indictment against Robinson and give some insight as to his state of mind.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, investigators have also said that four shell casings were found alongside a rifle discovered in a wooded area near the Utah Valley University campus.<\/p>\n<p>The shell casings had messages engraved in them which, prior to Robinson&#8217;s arrest, were among the only potential clues as to the killer&#8217;s motive &#8211; and have been the subject of much speculation.<\/p>\n<p>One unfired round had the words &#8220;Hey fascist! Catch!&#8221; along with an up, right and three down arrows \u2013 mostly likely a reference to a video game, Helldivers 2, indicating one of the game&#8217;s special moves.<\/p>\n<p>Another shell casing, authorities say, read &#8220;NoTices Bulge OWO What&#8217;s This?&#8221; &#8211; a reference to a meme about furry subculture and online roleplaying.<\/p>\n<p>The BBC has also seen an online profile allegedly owned by Robinson on a website dedicated to furry fandom, suggesting he may have had an interest in the subject.<\/p>\n<p>Another casing was inscribed with lyrics from the song Bella Ciao, which honours World War Two-era partisans of the Italian resistance who fought Nazi Germany. The song has also appeared in a video game, a TV series and has been covered and remixed many times in the years since.<\/p>\n<p>The fourth cartridge read: &#8220;If you Read This, You Are GAY Lmao&#8221; \u2013 another online reference.<\/p>\n<p>But the exact meaning of the messages, if indeed they are intended to have any meaning at all beyond a prank, is still unclear. The nature of online language, with its layers upon layers of irony, means that multiple interpretations are possible.<\/p>\n<p>In the messages to his roommate Robinson said the engravings were &#8220;mostly a big meme&#8221;, indicating perhaps that they should not be taken as a serious statement.<\/p>\n<p>Pictures of social media accounts apparently owned by Robinson and his roommate which have been circulating online are mostly focused on gaming &#8211; it appears that both Robinson and his roommate were keen video gamers.<\/p>\n<p>The accounts do include a few scattered comments on politics, none of them particularly conclusive or directly indicative of a motive. The BBC has reviewed the accounts, but has not been able to confirm that they belong to the pair.<\/p>\n<p>According to the messages released by prosecutors, when asked by his roommate how long he&#8217;d taken to plan the attack, Robinson responded: &#8220;A bit over a week.&#8221;<\/p>\n<ul class=\"caas-list caas-list-bullet\">\n<li>Read the text messages between Charlie Kirk accused and roommate<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>What don&#8217;t we know?<\/h2>\n<p>Prosecutors in Utah mostly declined to answer questions from the media on Tuesday, and although the state&#8217;s Governor Spencer Cox said Robinson had a &#8220;leftist ideology&#8221;, there are still gaps in what we know about a possible motive.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, it&#8217;s unclear what specifically Robinson found objectionable about Kirk. It&#8217;s also unclear how Robinson might have been radicalised and what role his online activities might have had in that process.<\/p>\n<p>Authorities have been tight-lipped about what role &#8211; if any &#8211; the suspect&#8217;s politics played in the attack.<\/p>\n<p>When Grey, the county prosecutor, was asked directly whether transgender activism inspired the shooting, he declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p>There also remains the possibility that the suspect may have had no coherent political stance. In several recent US mass shootings and assassination attempts &#8211; including the attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania last July &#8211; killers have appeared to have a jumbled set of political beliefs, or no clearly defined ideology.<\/p>\n<p>The FBI recently recognised a new category of threat called nihilistic violent extremism or NVE, defined by a general hostility to society and desire for chaos rather than a sharply defined ideology.<\/p>\n<p>FBI Director Kash Patel said in a Senate hearing Tuesday that his agency had seen a large uptick in cases involving NVE.<\/p>\n<p>In the Kirk case, Katherine Schweit, a former FBI agent and prosecutor, said investigators will be busy tracking Robinson&#8217;s online communications and interactions with friends and family members to glean more information.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That gives us a lot of insight into somebody&#8217;s pathway to the violence,&#8221; she said, adding that agents will &#8220;piece them all together to see how someone moves on the pathway from frustration all the way to choosing to commit a violent act.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The prospect of capital punishment means that prosecutors will need to show intent to commit murder when they press their case in court. However, Schweit says that&#8217;s distinct from motivation, which may or may not be directly relevant to the case.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;TV and movies have taught us that the motive is the most important thing, but from a prosecution standpoint, it&#8217;s not.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Schweit also noted that some high-profile assassins have been motivated by the desire to be famous or impress people.<\/p>\n<ul class=\"caas-list caas-list-bullet\">\n<li>Charlie Kirk suspect confessed in note to roommate, prosecutors allege<\/li>\n<li>Who is Tyler Robinson, the suspect in custody for shooting Charlie Kirk?<\/li>\n<li>Kirk shooting throws Utah students into heart of US political divide<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Partisan activists fuel speculation<\/h2>\n<p>During Tuesday&#8217;s Senate hearing, FBI director Patel also said that others are being investigated for possible involvement in the shooting.<\/p>\n<p>As of yet, no-one else has been charged in connection with the case and investigators have not indicated anyone else was involved.<\/p>\n<p>That has not stopped fevered &#8211; and for the most part un-evidenced &#8211; speculation online about alleged motives and large-scale plots.<\/p>\n<p>A number of right-wing influencers with huge social media followings, including several who are close to President Trump and Kirk&#8217;s Turning Point USA organisation, have alleged that the shooting was the work of a group or &#8220;terror cell&#8221; inspired by transgender activism and funded by left-wing activists.<\/p>\n<p>Trump said this week he will designate Antifa as a &#8220;major terrorist organisation&#8221; as part of his efforts to target the &#8220;radical left&#8221;, following Kirk&#8217;s killing. Robinson, the suspect, has not been directly linked to Antifa, a decentralised, leftist movement that opposes far-right, racist and fascist groups.<\/p>\n<ul class=\"caas-list caas-list-bullet\">\n<li>What is Antifa and why is Trump targeting it?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Some high-profile right-wing podcasters, including Trump&#8217;s former chief adviser Steve Bannon, have suggested that the text messages exchanged by Robinson and his roommate were somehow faked or false, implying &#8211; again without evidence &#8211; a broader conspiracy.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, a number of left-wing social media users have continued to claim that Robinson is a Trump supporter or member of a fringe, far-right group known as &#8220;groypers&#8221; &#8211; who consistently castigated Kirk for not supporting their white nationalist and anti-Semitic beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>Those claims also lack evidence, and prosecutors and Utah officials have given no indication that far-right groups are involved.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Everybody&#8217;s jumping to conclusions because that&#8217;s the society we live in,&#8221; said Schweit, the former FBI agent. &#8220;Everybody wants an answer \u2013 and right now.&#8221;<\/p>\n<ul class=\"caas-list caas-list-bullet\">\n<li>Who is Tyler Robinson, the suspect in custody for shooting Charlie Kirk?<\/li>\n<li>Obama says US faces &#8216;political crisis&#8217; after killing of Charlie Kirk<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The roommate of the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk had one question. &#8220;Why?&#8221; &#8220;I had enough<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":1849,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,48],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1848","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-us"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1848","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1848"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1848\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1850,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1848\/revisions\/1850"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1849"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1848"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1848"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.cedritech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1848"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}